How much on average do these 2 products cost in the USA?
1) A pack of 20 name brand cigarettes, 2) A 24 case of name brand beer.
Reason why I ask is here in Canada a pack of 25 cigarettes average around $13.50
A 24 case of beer $42.00
If the USA wants to get out of debt and to get universal heath care, here's a good way to start.
Here in Canada these prices haven't stopped people from smoking or drinking, not by a lot anyway.
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Cigarette prices vary greatly based on where you live. I am in NYC, and am proud to say we have the highest cigarette taxes in the nation. Federal $1.01/pack + New York State $4.35/pack + New York City $1.50/pack = $6.86/pack. On top of that, NYC sales tax is 8.875%, so even if they were able to give away the cigarettes for free, the taxes would be $6.92. Where I live in Queens (outskirts of NYC but within city limits) you might pay $10-$11, probably $12-$13 in Manhattan. Packs here have 20 cigarettes, not 25. Missouri has the lowest tax of just $0.17, so with Federal it is only $1.18. I'm an anti-smoker and the taxes don't even come close to covering the health care costs incurred by smokers and the people they harm and kill from secondhand smoke. Your taxes aren't high enough either, they need to be about $15-$20/pack (taxes, not total cost).
By the way, there is a loophole in that people who buy just the tobacco and roll their own cigarettes pay very little tax. I think the taxes are lower on pipe tobacco and they just label it that way but they are really for cigarettes. Also, a lot of Indian reservations can sell untaxed or very low taxed cigarettes.
Our beer and alcohol taxes are a lot lower here. It might depend somewhat on where you live, but not as much as with cigarettes. Maybe a case of Bud is about $18 or so on sale, imported beer maybe $14-$15 or more for a 12 pack. Your beer is much better and has more alcohol in it as well. Really, the only things better in the U.S. than Canada are it's not so cold, no one speaks French, and we are supposed to have separation of church and state, which our president fails to understand and doesn't want to enforce.
I agree that raising alcohol and tobacco taxes a whole lot more is a good idea (more so with tobacco), but the real problem we have here is that the health insurance companies are controlling our politicians with campaign contributions. They are pulling out about 25% in profit, and when the government runs it (like Medicare), there's no profit and about 3% overhead. Then, force business to pay the cost for each employee, and without HMO's and 20%-25% less cost, they can pay extra to cover all the unemployed and poor. Of course, all our jobs are already going overseas and that will accelerate it, so we need tariffs to equalize things and keep our jobs. I guess to do all that we need to educate about half of our population who vote Republican against their own best interests. Unfortunately the Republicans are also trying to cut education to keep everyone stupid and Republican. And then after 8 years of a psychopathic mass murderer as "president" (2 stolen elections), we get a decent guy but he has no clue how to negotiate, and he fails to understand that the Republicans are no less our enemy than the terrorists.
Good luck over there in Canada, I hope we don't take you down with us.
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